Pre-Tribulation?

  The belief that Christ will return before the 7 year Tribulation period begins is a false doctrine. And i can Scripturally prove it. But how many false Christians will read this entire article to see those Scriptural proofs? This generation turns a nose up to anyone who teaches contrary to what they believe is the TRUTH.  And it grieves my heart, that this teaching is the popular teaching of today. But it does not surprise me that Most Christians believe it because guess who is the god of this world?

  Pre-Trib believers are they who believe Christ will come and take His people BEFORE the 7 Year Tribulation starts. Mid-Trib believers are they who believe Christ will come and take His people DURING the Tribulation period. Post-Trib believers are they who believe Christ will come and take His people AFTER the Tribulation period ends.

  What does the Bible teach? That is what we should want to know, what verses in the Word of God, teaches that Christ will come BEFORE the Tribulations? Here they are:

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  Did you get that? There’s NONE. There is no verse in the Word of God that teaches Christ comes back BEFORE the Tribulations begins. This teaching solely comes from the interpretations of men and not from God. Man would like to believe this teaching, that God will come and take His Church, His people, His Saints, BEFORE the Tribulations, BEFORE all the suffering starts. This is a very pleasing thought for Christians, it is what Christians want to believe. But is it the Truth?

  The Inspired by God, Word of God does not teach that Christ will return BEFORE the Tribulations begin, nor does it teach, that Christians will go through all of the Tribulations to the end of it. Mid-Tribulations is the only belief that does not contradict the Word of God. The Word teaches that we will go through some of the Tribulations, but not all of it This clearly means somewhere in the middle of the Tribulation period is when Christ will Return.

  Let us start with the most convincing Scriptures that teach we will go through some but not all of the Tribulations.
  • Matthew 24: 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
  Jesus then starts to tell them what the signs will be PRIOR to His coming, He said there would be wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet (vs. 6), nation and kingdoms shall rise against nations and kingdoms, there will be famines, pestilences and earthquakes in strange places (vs. 7) and that these are just the beginning of sorrows (vs. 8) Remember all these are BEFORE He returns. Christians will be delivered to be afflicted and killed and all nations will hate Christians because of Jesus name (vs. 9), then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and hate one another (vs. 10) Jesus also told them many false prophets shall rise, and trick many to believe their doctrines (vs. 11) and because there will be so much sinning, the love of many people will grow cold (vs. 12) But the Christians that endure to the end, shall be Saved (vs. 13). Remember Christ has not yet returned yet, these are all signs that come PRIOR to His Return. Prior to Christ coming back, the gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world (vs. 14) then the anti-christ will stand in the Holy place (vs. 15) and woe to those who are pregnant or with infants in those days (vs. 19), because some time in the winter on a Sabbath day there shall be GREAT TRIBULATION, such that has never been before, nor ever to come again {Remember, this GREAT TRIBULATIONS that will come in the winter and on a Sabbath day, is BEFORE CHRIST COMES, this is one of the signs Jesus gives us to look for BEFORE HIS RETURN) (vs.20-21). But the Lord will shorten those days of Great Tribulation or all life will die, but because of the elects sake, that is to say the Christians that are still here during this time, God shortens that Tribulation because of His people (vs. 22). Then even after this, false prophets who can perform miracles and great signs shall appear, and these false prophets shall deceive the very elect (Christians) (vs. 24). Please notice the elect have not gone any where yet, they are still here and can be deceived by false prophets, because Christ has not yet come. Again remember Jesus is telling His disciples the signs that will be BEFORE His coming.

  Matthew 24; verse 5 through 28 is where Jesus shows us what signs will be before His coming, what Tribulations, such as was never seen nor ever will be again, prior to His coming. Now listen carefully to what Jesus says concerning after all these tribulations described in verses 5-28.
  • Matthew 24:29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days (described in verses 5-28) shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, (Remember that, A great sound of a trumpet is when Christ Returns, which is called the Rapture) and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
  Scriptures do not lie, Christ will come back AFTER all the signs in verses 5 through 28 are fulfilled as does the Word of God plainly teaches. Christ does not, i repeat, does not come before the tribulation period. Please read Mark Chapter 13, all of it at this time, and also Luke Chapter 21 all of it, to get a better understanding of this.

  Truly, there is more Scriptures that teach we will go through some of the Tribulations but not all of it.  In Revelations there are 7 seals that are opened, then there are 7 trumpets that are blown, then there are 7 vials or bowels that are poured out.

  Please do not believe any of the false doctrines that teach there are only 7 events, that the seals and the trumpets and the vials are all somehow talking about the same events. They are not as they say. With a very little study of the Word of God this can be easily proved. 7 seals are opened, after that 7 trumpets are blown and after that 7 vials are poured out.
  • Revelations 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
  When were the 7 angels given 7 trumpets according to the Word of God? AFTER the 7th seal was opened and there was silence in Heaven for about a half hour then 7 angels were given 7 trumpets. Clearly the 7 seals are not any of the 7 trumpets. Now listen to what it says when the 7th trumpet is blown:
  • Revelations 11: 15And the seventh angel sounded; …. 16 … 17 …18 … 19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, … … …
  This is important, when was the Temple of God in Heaven opened? According to the Word of God, the Temple of God was opened in Heaven when the 7th angel sounded the last trumpet (Rev 11:15-19)

  Now lets look at what happens when the Temple in Heaven is opened.
  • Revelations 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: (When was the Temple in Heaven opened? The 7th trumpet, yes? Yes.) 6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.
  The 7th trumpet is blown is when the Temple is opened in Heaven, when it is opened is when the 7 angels come out of that Temple to pour out the 7 vials. So you see, the 7 seals are not any of the 7 trumpets, nor are the 7 trumpets any of the 7 vials. Again, i stress it is important to know that 7 seals will be opened THEN 7 trumpets will be blown, THEN 7 vials will be poured.

  Do you remember earlier in this Chapter, where it said that Christ will return with a great sound of a trumpet? Here it is again:
  • Matthew 24:29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
  Notice it does not say, Christ comes at the breaking of a seal, nor does it say Christ comes at the pouring of a vial, but it says Christ will come at the sound of a trumpet.
  • I Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
  Now Matthew 24:29-31 says Christ comes with a great sound of a trumpet, and I Cor 15:52 says at the last trumpet sound, the dead (that are in Christ) shall be raised incorruptible, let us look at:
  • I Thessalonians 4: 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, (our atmosphere) to meet the Lord in the air: (our atmosphere) and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
   Scriptures plainly teach that at the last trumpet is when Christ will Return and Christians will rise from the dead to be with Christ, this is the Rapture, and it happens at the last trumpet. This is what Scriptures, the inspired, Holy Word of God, plainly teaches. NO INTERPRETATIONS needed. But leave it to the interpretation of men to confound the whole simplicity of what the Word of God plainly teaches. This generation fails miserable to understand that Interpretations belong to God, NOT to men. *

  In saying LAST, in the LAST TRUMPET, indicates there are more than one trumpet that is sounded. In order to be the last trumpet, there has to be a first. Where in the Word of God do we have a series of trumpets being blown? That is correct, Revelations speaks of 7 trumpets being blown. The 7th Trumpet would indeed be the last trumpet to be blown. Does the 7th trumpet in Revelation show that Christ returns? Lets consider it:
  • Revelations 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: (times up) 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
  When the 7th angel sounds His trumpet there should be time no longer, times up. Now, i am going to quote Rev 10:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord (When does the Kingdoms of the Earth become His Kingdoms? At the 7th Trumpet sounding), and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, (When is the time to judge the dead? At the 7th Trumpet sounding) and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; (When does the Lord give out rewards to His Prophets and Saints? At the 7th Trumpet sounding) and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. 19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. it is what the Word of God says concerning the angel blowing the last, the 7th trumpet. See if it does not sound to you that this is the Rapture.
  • Revelations 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. 19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
  Here is my point, if Christ does come to get His Church at the 7th trumpet like the Scriptures teach, then that means we Christians will go through all 7 seals AND all 6 of the trumpets, BEFORE Christ Returns. True Christians will not go through the 7 vials. The 7 vials are to destroy all the rest of the wicked off the face of the Earth. True Christians will not be around for any of the 7 vials that are poured onto the Earth.

  So then if True Christians are present for the seals and the trumpets, but not present for the vials, then the statement “We will go through some of the Tribulations but not all of them” is a True statement.

  How then do pre-Trib believers say and teach Christ will come for His Church before tribulations begins? i assure you the Tribulation period includes some seals and all 6 trumpets. The sixth seal, there’s a great Earthquake, the sun becomes black and the moon blood and stars of Heaven fall to the Earth, even as figs fall from a tree in a mighty wind, and every mountain and every island is moved out of their places (Rev 6:12-16) verse 17 says “for the great day of His wrath is come: and who shall be able to stand?” This is the 6th seal that says “the great day of His wrath is come” And Christians are still here at the opening of the sixth seal, still yet to go through more tribulations of the six trumpets yet to sound. So then Christians will be here when the Earth is bombarded by asteroids, and when every mountain and island are MOVED out of their places, Christians are still present for these events.

  The 7th seal starts the 7 trumpets. 1st trumpet hail and fire mingled with blood is cast to the Earth. 1/3 of the trees are burnt up, and all grass is burnt up.[Christians here for this] 2nd trumpet of God, a great mountain burning with fire is cast into the sea (ocean) All life in the ocean died, and 1/3 of all the ships in that ocean were destroyed.
[Christians here for this]  3rd trumpet of God, a great star (comet) from Heaven hits the Earth and poisons 1/3 of all the rivers of the Earth, many die because of the poisoned water.[Christians here for this] 4th trumpet of God sounds and we lose 1/3 (4 hours) of the day and 1/3 (4 hours) of the night also. [Christians here for this] 5th angel sounds his trumpet of God another comet hits the Earth and opens the bottomless pit releasing locust to torment, but not kill, humans for five months. [Christians here for this]  The 6th trumpet of God is when nations armies clash in the area of Jerusalem. [Christians here for this] The 7th trumpet is when Christ intervenes by returning to the Earth and taking up His Church, both the dead in Christ and the living all in the self same day.

  The point is Christians will go through all 7 seals and 6 trumpets of God, and if all that is not part of the tribulation period, i do not know what is. And, all that, we will go through before Christ comes to get us at the last trumpet.

  The biggest danger in believing that Christ will come before the Tribulation period starts, which most people in this last day generation believes to be the Truth, is that when Tribulation does start, and they were not taken as they thought they should have been, these will fall away from the faith. Think about it, If you Truly believed that Christ would come and get you BEFORE the Tribulation started, and He does not come, or even show up, when Tribulation does start, you will start to believe, that all that you have believed in is a lie. Not to mention during this time the anti-christ will be saying to the whole world “Where is your God now?” So then because Jesus did not come when He was suppose to, there will be a great falling away, and fall away because they believed a false doctrine that is not based on Scriptures but is based on interpretations of men, namely the teaching that Christ will come BEFORE tribulation begins, this is NOT what the Word of God teaches, it is what man teaches.
  • II Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
  Before Christ returns, there will be a falling away first. How primed is this generation to fall away from the Faith, when Tribulation will begin and they are not taken, Jesus does not come. He does not show up like they all believed He would. Earthquakes everywhere, famines, pestilences, mountains and islands are all moved out of their places, 1/3 of the trees are burnt up, all grass is burnt up, 1/3 of all drinking water is poisoned, everything in the sea is dead, asteroids hitting the planet all over the world. AND JESUS DID NOT COME. Over 85% of all Christians on this planet will be looking for Christ to come BEFORE Tribulations start, and a great many of those will fall away from the faith when He does not show up, when they thought He should have. That is the biggest danger in believing the false doctrine of pre-Trib (the belief that Christ will come back BEFORE the Tribulation begins). This is also why satan tries so hard to promote that doctrine, because he know full well the more Christians believe that doctrine, the more they will indeed Fall Away from Jesus Christ. The teaching of pre-trib is from satan himself. Let us continue to hearken to the interpretations of men, instead of merely believing the Word of God and what it plainly teaches. God forbid!

  But here is the good news, you NOW know the Truth, what the Scriptures teach, what they say about His Return. Now you know what signs to look for. In the words of Jesus “so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things come to pass, know ye that the Kingdom of God is nigh at hand” (Matt 24:33, Mark 13:29, and Luke 21:31)

  Standfast, be strong, endure to the end, He shall come when the 7th trumpet is blown, remain in the faith, keep your eyes and thoughts on Christ, walk the walk, pray continually, and do not love your life. If you do these things, then one day soon. i shall see you in the New City Jerusalem with me. And we will reign with Christ over the Earth for a thousand years, then after that, over the universe, for ever and ever, joys and pleasures without end.

  Talking with fellow Christians on forums, i see some things men interpret Scriptures to mean and support pre-trib. For example:
  •  1Th_5:9  For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
  i see this verse being used a lot to defend the teaching of pre-trib. You see men interpret that verse to mean the 7 year Tribulation Period. But that verse does not say that at all, now does it? But men interpret that word "wrath" to mean the 7 year Tribulation Period. Interpretations belong to God, NOT to men.

  As i bring up to those who like to use this verse to support pre-trib. i ask them how does this verse in any way whatsoever teach pre-trib? They come back saying "Well if we are not appointed to wrath, then we must be taken up Before wrath comes to the Earth" lol. Were the Israelites taken out of Egypt before the wrath of God came upon Egypt with all the plagues and such? The Israelites were not appointed to wrath, but they were most certainly there to witness it, were they not? Just because the above verse says we are not appointed to wrath, does not in any way say or teach that we will not be present for it. To interpret that verse to mean we Christians are taken up prior to the Wrath coming upon the Earth, is nothing but an evil interpretation coming from the minds of human men thinking they have what it takes to interpret the Word of God. The Truth is that verse says we are not appointed to wrath. It does not say we will not witness it all around us. Even as the Israelites were not appointed to wrath, they were still present during the whole wrath that came upon Egypt.

  And even though Christians are not appointed to wrath, if those Christians live in sin, then they are indeed appointed to wrath. Consider:
  • 1Th_5:9  For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
  • Gal_6:8  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
  Tell me, does one verse cancel out the other verse? Really? Is one verse True and the other verse NOT True? So then even though we Christians are not appointed for wrath if we continue to knowingly and willingly obey satan to commit sin, then we are appointed to wrath even as Scriptures teaches. A Christian who is not appointed to wrath, that commits the sin of fornication (sex outside of marriage) is then indeed appointed for corruption in his/her flesh even as Scriptures plainly teach they are. Scripture plainly teach that the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness. (Rom 1:18) The Church is not appointed to wrath, UNLESS the Church puts their hands into iniquity, then it most certainly is.

  There are verses that Prove that pre-trib is not True.
  There are verse that Prove that post-trib is not True.
   ONLY a Mid-trib belief has absolutely no verse that disproves it.

The following Time Line that i present a link to. i challenge any person to show me one verse that proves something in the Time Line to be inaccurate. Don't want your interpretations, or your opinions. Show me a verse that plainly reveals something in the Time Line is not Scriptural.

Time Line



In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ