off let me
point out to you, That
if one verse in the
Word of God contradicts what you believe is the Truth, then i assure
that what you believe is in error. For the Words of God are True and
and correct. Therefore if what you believe is the Truth contradicts
one verse in the Bible, then what you believe is in error. It is not
what you believe is the Truth, does not contradict even one verse in
Bible, then you will know the Truth.
The First thing to
do in understanding
the Trinity is look to
the Word of God for other examples of such a thing. And lo and behold
have an example:
And said, For
this cause shall a man leave
father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they
be one flesh?
they are no more twain, but one
flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man
twain shall be one flesh:
so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
For this cause
shall a man leave his father
and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two
shall be one
So then according to
Scriptures when a Husband (Man, Male), marries a wife
(Woman, Female) they are no longer Two flesh, but they are ONE. IN
same example we can then see and understand what the Trinity is all
Trinity means three
(hence Tri) the
Three in the Trinity according
to what we will be talking about are: God the Father, Jesus Christ the
of that Father, and the Holy Ghost the Helper. These are three
three different jobs, three different personalities sort of speaking,
husband and wife, they are no longer three, they are ONE. This in no
shape, form, or other, is saying that Jesus is the Father, nor that the
is Jesus, nor the Holy Ghost is the Father. Jesus is not God the
Father, to say
He is God the Father, is contrary to sound doctrine, and just is not
teach that Jesus Christ was the Son of God, Jesus testified that He was
Son of God, the Disciples testified that He was the Son of God and
of Old and of the New, testify that Jesus is the Son of God, To say
differently is ungodly. Those who say Jesus is God the Father, know not
the Truth. (click HERE
to read the article which Scripturally proves this)
Now don't get me
wrong, this is where the
confusion comes in
(which satan is the Master of Confusion) Jesus Christ is my God, this
not mean i believe Jesus is God the Father, only that Jesus is my
my Savior, my Lord, and my God, He is my everything. This does not in
way state or claim that i think Jesus is God the Father.
Many who believe Jesus is God
use this verse:
In the beginning
was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and the Word was God.
Not that this verse is simple
enough to understand, let me break it down into even more simpler to
Jn:1:1: In the beginning was
the Word (Jesus)
was with God (the
Father), and the Word (Jesus)
(the Godhead). How
about even more simpler: In the beginning was Jesus Christ, and Jesus
was with God the Father , and Jesus Christ was part of the
However this verse does not say that Jesus is God the Father, it is
would like to believe it means.
Not to mention those who
believe Jesus is God the Father, have
a difficult time
explaining many verses in the Word of God that contradict with what
believe, nor can these who claim that Jesus is God the Father can show
says Jesus is God the Father, nor can they find any scripture that the
Jesus is God the Father, nor anyone in the entire Bible that says Jesus
is God the
Anyway, they have a hard time explaining many such verses that
what they believe is the Truth. For example :
And lo a voice
from heaven, saying, This is
my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
While he yet
spake, behold, a bright cloud
overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said,
is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
And there came
a voice from heaven, saying,
Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
And there was a
cloud that overshadowed them:
and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear
And the Holy
Ghost descended in a bodily shape
like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou
my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
And there came
a voice out of the cloud, saying,
This is my beloved Son: hear him.
If Jesus is God, then in the
above verses, who was
speaking ? Was it not
God the Father which was saying " This is My beloved Son: hear Him" If
the one speaking was God, and Jesus was being baptized below in the
and God the Father said with His own mouth, that this Jesus was His
what then, is God a liar ? If Jesus is God the Father, then why did God
the Father call Him
Son, if in fact He was the Father. If Jesus is God the Father, then the
voice that came
Heaven either lies or doesn't know what He is talking about, for the
in the sky said Jesus was His Son, and yet people claim Jesus is God
if it is exactly as Scriptures teach and reveal to us, that Jesus
is the Son of God the Father, and God is the Father of Jesus Christ,
then it would
together clearly and with understanding. Jesus is the Son of God, which
what all of Scriptures teaches, anything other than this, is not
and is not godly, but comes from another place.
And when the
tempter came to him, he said,
If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. (Even
satan knows that Christ was not God but knew He was the Son of God)
But satan has done a good job getting people to call Jesus anything but
Truth, Hence he got people saying Jesus is God, denying He is the Son
the Father which is in Heaven.
And saith unto
him, If thou be the Son of
God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his
concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at
time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
they cried out, saying, What
have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither
torment us before the time? (even demons knows that
Christ is not
God, but know that Christ is the Son of God)
Then they that
were in the ship came and
worshiped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
He is the Son of God as they witnessed)
But Jesus held
his peace. And the high priest
answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou
us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.64: Jesus saith unto him,
hast said: (Jesus Himself
confessed also that He is
the Son of God, not that He is God, but the Son of God) nevertheless
I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the
hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. (Jesus
said that we shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of
(which is God the Father) and many other verses confirm this.)
Thou that destroyest the temple,
and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God,
down from the cross. (Evidently it was being taught that
to be the Son of God, and not taught that He was God.)
He trusted in
God; let him deliver him now,
if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.
also that He is the Son of God, not God, but clearly the Son of God,
has deceived many into not believing the Truth, but believing something
than the Truth, and satan has also got these people to try to teach
untruth to those who say that Jesus is not God but the Son of God, and
people are so set in their blindness of this Truth, that they will not
those who know the Truth, not that we have this Truth exclusively, but
Truth is clearly written and taught in the Words of God. But that is
goal is to pervert the Words of God and to get people not to believe
he is succeeding in this, but fret not, Few will enter into the Kingdom
Heaven, maybe you belong to those few.
Now when the
centurion, and they that were
with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that
done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
The beginning of
the gospel of Jesus Christ,
the Son of God;
spirits, when they saw him, fell
down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.
And when the
centurion, which stood over
against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said,
this man was the Son of God.
And the angel
answered and said unto her,
The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall
overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of
shall be called the Son of God.
And the devil
said unto him, If thou be the
Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.
And he brought
him to Jerusalem, and set him
on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of
cast thyself down from hence:
And devils also
came out of many, crying out,
and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them
them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.
When he saw
Jesus, he cried out, and fell
down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with
Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.
Then said they
all, Art thou then the Son
of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.
And I saw, and
bare record that this is the
Son of God.
answered and saith unto him, Rabbi,
thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
believeth on him is not condemned:
but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not
in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
I say unto you, The hour is
coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of
and they that hear shall live.
that they had cast him out; and
when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son
Say ye of him,
whom the Father hath sanctified,
and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son
heard that, he said, This sickness
is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might
She saith unto
him, Yea, Lord: I believe
that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the
Do you believe Christ was the
Son of God, or God the Father?
the Truth and what Scriptures teach, not what people say is the Truth,
their interpretation of the Truth, i believe what the Truth clearly
no interpretation needed. Jesus Christ is the Son of God, this i
woe to them who do not believe He is the Son of God.
answered him, We have a law, and
by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.
But these are
written, that ye might believe
that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might
life through his name. (So those who believe Christ is
the Son of
God have life)
said, If thou believest with
all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that
Christ is the Son of God.
straightway he preached Christ in the
synagogues, that he is the Son of God. (Did he
that Christ was the Son of God or that He was God ? even a child can
that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, leave it to the learned to confuse
And declared to
be the Son of God with power,
according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
For the Son
of God, Jesus Christ, who was
preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was
yea and nay, but in him was yea.
I am crucified
with Christ: nevertheless
I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now
in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and
himself for me.
Till we all
come in the unity of the faith,
and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the
of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
that we have a great high priest,
that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast
If they shall
fall away, to renew them again
unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God
and put him to an open shame.
Of how much
sorer punishment, suppose ye,
shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God,
hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an
thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
committeth sin is of the devil; for
the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God
manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
shall confess that Jesus is the
Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.(i confess
is the Son of God, those who say Jesus is God the Father cannot confess
that Jesus is
the Son of God, for they think and believe that He is the Father, they
are in error)
Who is he that
overcometh the world, but he
that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? (i believe
the Son of God also, i do not believe that Jesus is God the Father,
is not taught in the Words of God, nor by the Disciples, nor by the
nor by anyone in the entire Bible, this is satans lie.)
believeth on the Son of God hath
the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar;
because he believeth not the record that God gave of
(kind of difficult to believe, if you believe Jesus is the Father)
He that hath
the Son hath life; and he that
hath not the Son of God hath not life.
have I written unto you that
believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have
life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
Please note this verse is talking
about God the Father : And we know that Jesus the Son of God is come,
hath given us an understanding the we may know God the Father is True,
we are in God that is true, even in God the Father's Son, Jesus Christ.
is the true God the Father, and eternal life. notice above it says "
in HIS Son Jesus Christ " we are talking about God the Father
And we know
that the Son of God is come,
and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true,
we are in him that is true, even in his
Son Jesus Christ. This
is the true God, and eternal life.
And unto the
angel of the church in Thyatira
write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a
of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
So then there must be other
verses, that these
people are using, to convince
themselves that Jesus is God the Father, through and by their own
have seen one of them above being the most popular one, that they
In the beginning
was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and the Word was God.
Note how those who claim
is God the Father do not make an attempt whatsoever to explain the part
which says " the Word was WITH God " but full heartedly concentrate on
last part which says " the Word was God " which is True for Jesus
is part of the Godhead, making Him ONE with God the Father, this does
mean nor will ever mean, that Jesus is God the Father. This is their
interpretation of what it means, and for a fact, this interpretation is
to the entire Bible, and they still call it Truth. Not to
do not recognize the very next verse:
beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was
God. 2: The
same was in the beginning with
If what you believe is
contrary to even one verse
the Bible, then what you believe to be the Truth, is in error. When
you believe does not contradict even one verse in the Bible then you
on to the Truth. So then if someone believes that Jesus is God the
then they do greatly error for there are many verses which is contrary
such thinking. However, if the Jesus was with God the Father, and Jesus
God being a part of the Trinity and being ONE with the Father, then
thinking does not even contradict even one verse in the Bible, this is
What other verses do they
interpret to mean Jesus
But unto the
Son he saith, Thy throne, O God,
is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy
is this in any way, saying Jesus is God the Father, this verse
clearly without any interpretation is saying that God the Father called
God, and He is God being a part of the Godhead or Trinity, for they are
this verse still does not validate people claiming that Jesus is God
Father, matters of fact if you read Hebrews
, you will see that
the Father is saying all these things about Jesus such as :
For unto which
of the angels said he (God the Father) at any time, Thou
art my Son, this
day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he
be to me a Son?
What more evidence does one need to know
is not God the Father, but is the Son of God as it is written and
And again, when
he (God the Father) bringeth
in the firstbegotten into the world, he
saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.(let all
of God the Father worship Jesus Christ) What i can't understand, is
easily satan can blind and mislead those who profess to know Christ.)
But ye are not
in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not
Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Again, how does this say or
even imply that Jesus is God ? it doesn't. It says " But ye are not in
flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you
question if Christ be in you, is that a spirit of God or satan ? Most
say Spirit of God, those who are sarcastic would say " the Spirit of
", not answering the question presented to them, but being difficult.
is ONE with the Father, this does not mean Jesus is the Father, just as
husband is ONE with the wife, does not mean the husband is the wife.
should not teach things which are contrary to sound doctrine, for they
teaching things of satan. Satan will use Scriptures to make Christians
as much as he is able to do so, and from my point of observation, he is
a fine job in getting those who profess to be Christians to teach
that are not Scriptural but based on beliefs and interpretation of what
believe is the Truth, and again i say unto you, if what you believe is
Truth even contradicts one verse in the Bible, then what you believe is
error and is not the Truth.
Also read the Article called Jesus the Father?
am actually blown away by how many people are confused about the
Trinity, Several false doctrines has surfaced due to the confusion this
topic has caused. Which is not surprising that satan would take
something so simple and make it so complicated in the minds of humans.
Lets point out that the Word “Trinity” is not found in
Scriptures, nor are the words “Rapture”, “Millennium”, ”Slain
the Spirit”, “Revival”, or the word “Suicide”, or
Just because they are not mentioned in the Word of God does not mean
they don’t exist. These words represent something. The word Trinity is
referring to the union of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost.
An example of the Son and the Holy Ghost can be found in Genesis
Chapter One, at the creation of the Earth and our Atmosphere (Heaven).
Verse 26 says “Let US make man in OUR image”. The words US and OUR are
plural and not singular, there was more then one. We know that Jesus
was in the beginning from:
And another verse that confirms that Jesus
made all things
- John 1:1 In
the beginning was
the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same
was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; (Jesus)
and without him was not any thing made that was made. . . 10 . . . 11.
. .12. . .13. . . 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the
Father,) full of grace and truth.
The Spirit also helped Jesus create the
by him were all things created, that are in heaven,
and that are in earth . . . . . . . .
1:1 In the beginning God (Jesus) created the heaven and the
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the
face of the deep. And the Spirit of God (Holy Ghost) moved upon the
face of the waters.
Quite frankly i do not understand why this
topic is so
confusing when Scriptures are quite clear concerning them.
10:20 For it
is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your
Father (Holy Ghost) which speaketh in you.
Jesus our Savior and Lord instructed us in:
Why would Jesus instruct us to do this, if there wasn’t the 3 of them,
the Father, whom Jesus prayed too, then there is Jesus Himself, the Son
of the Father, and then finally the Spirit of the Father, the Holy
Ghost? Not to mention we have Scriptures that clearly teach there are
three of them that those three, are one.
28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
How much clearer can the Trinity be? Unless your one of those people
who go about to change the Word of God to fit your own belief, such as
those who say this verse can’t be found in the original Hebrew or Greek
texts, therefore making this verse in the Word of God void and to no
effect, only to fit their own personal beliefs.
John 5:7 For there
are three that bear record in heaven, the Father,
the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
then? God intends for us to disregard certain verses in the Word of God
that He has given the English speaking people and to now become learned
in Hebrew and Greek in order to come to the knowledge of the Truth? i
thank the Lord Jesus Christ that He gave us the King James version of
the Bible so that English speaking people can come to the knowledge of
the Truth without having to take it to the Hebrew of Greek in order to
Is it not the Holy Ghost that reveals Truth to us
concerning the Scriptures? Can the Holy Ghost not reveal to us Truth
without having to take it to the Hebrew or Greek to do so? Yes He can
and does. Blessed are the simple and as children merely believe the
Word of God in the language that it was given to them. Of a Truth the
Hebrew Bible and the Greek Bible were to the Hebrew speaking people and
to the Greek speaking people. The Latin Bible is to the Latin speaking
people, and the King James Bible is to the English speaking people. Do
you see how simple that is, God is not the author of confusion. English
speaking people can come to the full knowledge of the Truth through the
King James Version, which was written to the English speaking people.
And God was there to translate it EXACTLY as He wanted it translated.
English speaking people need not go to the Hebrew or Greek to come to
the knowledge of the Truth. That is not, nor ever was His intentions.
For more information read Chapter on “Hebrew, Greek, or KJV”
Do you believe the following verse?
Do you believe ALL Scriptures are inspired, or
do you think I John 5:7 should not be included in the Word of God? Or
do you try to take away that verse, saying such things like, it was not
in the original Hebrew or Greek. Know you not what Scriptures say about
those who take away from the Word of God?
Timothy 3:16 ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction
Any person who teaches you to ignore, or make void verses in the KJV
Bible, does not know the Truth, and you should not listen to any such
person, they lie and do not the Truth.
if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the
holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Now maybe the part
that says “and these three are one” is what is causing
the confusion concerning the Trinity. Well we know that Scriptures
interprets Scriptures, why should this be any different?
i see, so
it doesn’t mean they husband is the wife or the wife is the husband,
but it is talking about a unity. So even though the husband and the
wife are separate people having separate responsibilities, yet they are
ONE. Likewise, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are separate entities,
having different responsibilities, yet they are ONE. Quite simple to
understand really, a child of 8 years old can understand this concept.
Leave it to the learned, and those who think they know something to
confound that which is simple.
19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and
shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6
Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God
hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
How many bare record in
Heaven? According to the Word of God there are Three and those three
are ONE. How many are in a marriage? According to the Word of God there
is the Husband and the Wife, and these two are ONE. Need i say more?
With this generation, probably, you either believe the Word of God and
what it says or you don’t believe it.
Believest thou this Scripture? Do you believe that we can be
ONE with the Father and Jesus? Jesus says again:
17:11 And now I am no
more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy
Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that
they may be ONE, as we are.
Do you not see the simplicity in this, they are not ONE as in one and
the same, saying such false things as, Jesus is the Father. They are
ONE as in a unity together, even as we can become ONE with them. I,
according to the Word of God can be ONE with Jesus and the Father. If
then i am ONE with Jesus, does that mean i am Jesus. Likewise if Jesus
is ONE with the Father, does that mean Jesus is the Father? God Forbid.
17:21 That they all may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in
thee, that they also may be ONE in us: that the world may believe that
thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given
them; that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE: 23 I in them, and thou
in me, that they may be made perfect in ONE; and that the world may
know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
i tell you the Truth, there are three that are one. The Father, the
Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these THREE are ONE in purpose and in
unity. Why is it so difficult for this generation to grasp the
simplicity of the Trinity.
An egg, is of three yet is
one. It has the shell, the yoke, and the white. All three are ONE egg.
Likewise a person consists of three. A person has Blood, Water, and the
Spirit. Take away any one of those things from the body, and the body
will die. Those three things are separate, yet together in unity makes
a living body. A husband and wife are separate sexes, yet are they not
ONE in unity. Likewise there are three in Heaven. The Father God, the
Son God, and the Spirit God, ALL three of these, in unity, is ONE. Just
as we are ONE with them, if we abide in Him, and they in us.