The belief that Jesus is the Father is a false doctrine.
First lets look at the verses where this false belief is derived from, verses that men misinterpret to fit their own beliefs.
Now we know, and it is true, that Scriptures interprets Scriptures. Are there any Scriptures at all that reveals to us, how two can be one?
The answer is YES. Jesus Himself tells us:
Jesus goes on to say:
The next verses are also what people use to support man’s interpretation, that Jesus is the Father.
Did Jesus lie then? It looks that way, one verse, He says you have seen Him, and in another verse, He says you have not seen Him, and in another it says that NO MAN has seen Him, which is it? It is BOTH, Both are True Statements, we do see the Father through Jesus Christ, we see the Father in Jesus Christ. If the Father (Spirit of) dwells in me, then if you see me you see the Father as well, who is a Spirit, and lives in me.
We as humans can only see the Father Spiritually, for the Father is a Spirit. No man can see the Father, only through Jesus Christ can we know and see the Spiritual Father which is in Him. So then no man can see the physical Father, for He is in Heaven, but we can see the Spiritual Father which is in Jesus Christ.
Jesus Himself explains these verses plainly what He was talking about. It needs no further interpretations. Leave it to man though to try to interpret it into something that fits what they believe, instead of changing their belief to fit with what Scriptures plainly teach.
There is no verse that says or teaches that Jesus is the Father, NONE. It is only interpretations of men that says otherwise.
Think about it. If Jesus were the Father, why didn’t He just tell the Truth??? Did you hear the Question? If Jesus is the Father why didn’t He just plainly tell us the Truth???
Why the deceit? Why the trickery? Why the lies? i know what this generation says to validate why Jesus did this. They say “If He would have told the Truth and said He was the Father, they would have killed Him on the spot. So He had to say He was the Son of God, and not God Himself”
People who use this EXCUSE for Jesus to lie about Him being the Father, does not know the Scriptures or the Truth of God. They do not know or understand that by Jesus saying He is the Son of God, Jesus was saying that He is God because being a Son of the Father makes Him equal to His Father.
My point is, even if Jesus said He was the Father would not have changed the desire for the Pharisees to kill Him. They already wanted to kill Him and sought for ways to do so. So it doesn’t matter if Jesus said He was God, or He was the Father, or He was the Son of God. The Pharisees and Sadducees ALREADY wanted to kill Him.
So the question still remains, why the lies? Why the trickery? Why the deceit? Why did Jesus say He was the Son of the Father, if He wasn’t the Son of the Father, but was the Father?
There are many holes in the Excuse above that this generation uses to explain why Jesus would say He is the Son when He was actually the Father. Did Jesus not know when His hour was up? Did He not know and allow that hour to come? So then it doesn’t matter if Jesus would have told the Truth (if be He is the Father), what i mean is, If Jesus is the Father, there is absolutely NO REASON whatsoever for Him to lie about it. He could have plainly told the Truth. Hello!! He is God and can prevent them from killing Him until His hour was up.
So the reasons this generation uses, as to why Jesus said He was the Son when in Truth He was the Father are lacking in plausibility. Jesus Himself taught us not to lie, He would not lie Himself. IF Jesus Christ said He is the Son of God the Father, BELIEVE HIM.
According to the Word of God, WHO raised Jesus from the Dead? His Father!
Who forsook Jesus at the cross? His Father!
Who can hear and speak with sinners? Jesus, the Son of God
Who can’t hear and speak with sinners? The Father.
Jesus plainly, over and over again, said He was praying to the Father IN HEAVEN, see verses: Matthew 10:32, 18:10 & 14, Mark 11:26, Luke 11:2 all of which reveal the Father is in Heaven.
My point is, if Jesus really is the Father, why did HE pray to the Father if in Truth He did not pray to the Father, because He is the Father? Why even say He is praying to the Father if in Truth He was praying to NOBODY, but Himself. Why tell us He is praying to the Father all the while knowing full well that He wasn’t?
Many who believe this false doctrine that Jesus is the Father, say that He prayed to His Father as an EXAMPLE for us to pray. REALLY??? I’m suppose to say I’m praying to the Father but really pray to myself, that is the example Jesus gave me if He is the Father. Jesus did not pray to His Father, He prayed to Himself, if Jesus is the Father that is the EXAMPLE He teaches us. That we should Act like we are praying to the Father in Heaven but really pray to yourself! God Forbid. Jesus indeed is our example. He Truly prayed to His Father in Heaven, even as we are to pray to the Father in Heaven also. Woe to any person who believes that Jesus was praying to Himself, when Jesus Himself tells us plainly that He is praying to His Father in Heaven.
Do you believe the Words of Jesus Christ? Or do you think you have discovered some kind of secret knowledge that allows you to know a mystery of God, which allows you to believe contrary to what Jesus said and taught?
Do they not know it is the Word of God that shall Judge us in the End. That Jesus Christ will Judge us. If Jesus said He prayed to His Father in Heaven and you don’t believe Him, for whatever reason, you don’t think this will upset Him, that you do not believe His Words? Woe to them indeed, for much learning hath blinded them from the simple Truth that even children can understand. Children know that Jesus is the Son of the Father that is in Heaven.
The Word of God plainly over and over again, teaches that Jesus is the Son of God. Man teaches that Jesus is the Father. i warn you, believe the Word of God and not men (who think they know something) to teach you the Truths of God. I, like Paul, bow my knees to the Father of Jesus Christ.
No liar shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. If Jesus is the Father, i assure you with no doubting that He is a liar then. God forbid!
What if there is a Father in Heaven, just like Jesus said there is? What if Jesus prayed to His Father exactly as he said He did? What if all that Jesus said about the Father, is exactly True, as He said it is True. What if Jesus Christ is the Son of that Father exactly like all of Scriptures says He is?
The biggest danger in believing that Jesus is the Father, is that a requirement for one to have Salvation – they must believe that Jesus is the SON OF GOD. How can they believe He is the SON OF GOD when they believe He is not the Son, but He is the Father. Therefore believing a lie and not the Truth.
If they do not believe that Jesus is the SON of God (which would make God the Father and Jesus the SON. If you are a Son, then you have a Father, that is what makes you a Son) then their Salvation is in question.
What more evidence does one need to know that Jesus is not God the Father, but is the Son of God as it is written and taught. Believe what the Word of God says NOT what men teach.
What if Scriptures are True, and the Father did send His only Son Jesus Christ to the Earth exactly as Scriptures says He did. You either believe the Word of God or you don’t. Do you believe that God the Father sent His only Son, Yes or No? To answer yes is to have Salvation, to answer no, is to believe the interpretations of men and not what the Word of God plainly teaches.
That the Father sent His Son can be seen in all these verses: Mark 9:37, Luke 4:43, John 5:24 & 30 & 36 & 37 & 38, 6:38 & 39, 7:16, 8:29, 9:4, 11:42, 12:44 & 45 & 49, 13:20, 14:24, 17:3 & 8 & 21, 20:21 .
All those verses, Jesus tells us that His Father sent Him. Did His Father send Him, or did the Father come down Himself? If you believe the Scriptures then you would have to believe that the Father sent Jesus Christ exactly as He said He did. The problem with believing that Jesus is the Father, is that hundreds of verses contradict that belief. Its amazing to me how easily men are blinded to the Truth, instead of merely believing the Word of God and what it plainly teaches, if the WORD says the Father sent His Son, then that is the Truth, the Father sent His son. Man teaches that the Father came down Himself and called Himself the Son, Scriptures do not teach that, man teaches that false doctrine.
Did the Father send His Son or not? According to the Inspired by God Scriptures, Yes, He did send His only Son to the Earth while He, the Father, stayed in Heaven. Remember what God told me several times "If what you believe contradicts even one verse in Scriptures, then what you believe is wrong." If you believe that Jesus is the Father, that belief contradicts MANY verses in Scriptures, that belief is WRONG.
How about all the verses which testify and witness that Jesus sits or stands to the right of the Father in Heaven? Please read Matthew 20:23, Col 3:1, Hebrews 1:3, 12:2, I Peter 3:22 , Matthew 26:64, Acts 7:56, Romans 8:34 , Hebrews 1:8-13, 10:12.
If Jesus is the Father, how is He standing or sitting to the right of Himself? Maybe the Father sits on the Throne and Jesus sits to the right of the Father, EXACTLY like the Word of God says He does.
We know that Scriptures reveal to us that Jesus is the Lamb. John the Baptist said in John 1:29 “Behold the Lamb of God” If Jesus is the Father then who is on the Throne?
i could write a book with the amount of verses that teach Jesus is not the Father, in the rest of this Chapter, i will briefly touch on some verses, not in-depth as i could do but briefly bring up some verses that people who believe Jesus is the Father need to question themselves.
Why did Jesus Himself teach us in Matt 28:19 to be baptized in the name of the Father, AND of the Son, AND of the Holy Ghost, if they are indeed the same being? Or is this another inspired by God verse that is not suppose to be in the inspired Word of God, a verse that needs to be taken out of the Bible because it is a mistake. A verse that God has allowed to be written in His Word, but man says it shouldn’t be? God forbid.
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
The Apostle Paul sure thought they were two different entities. Do you think the Holy Ghost forgot to tell Paul that Jesus was the Father? lol. The Holy Ghost would never tell the Apostle Paul that Jesus is the Father, that would make the Holy Ghost a Liar. lol. God forbid.
Why does Jesus say that He does not know the day or the hour of His Return, but says His Father only knows that hour:
Why would Jesus pray to His Father asking for this cup to pass from Him, but not His will be done, but let His Fathers will be done, why would He pray that, if He were the Father? Maybe He prayed that prayer, because there actually is a Father in Heaven, that He was praying to, exactly as He teaches us.
Why does Jesus refer to Himself and the Father in John 14:23 “And WE will come unto him”? Explain who the “WE” are.
If Jesus is the Father, why did Jesus say in John 14:28 . . . “For My Father is greater than I” Why would Jesus say His Father is Greater if He in Truth is the Father? Likewise, Jesus told a man, that He is not Good, but there is one that is Good, and that is His Father.
In John 15:15 Jesus said what He hears from the Father He reveals to us. Did He hear from His Father or from Himself, and if from Himself, why did He say from his Father?
If Jesus is the Father, why does Jesus say that He is going to the Father, in John 16:16?
According to the Inspired Word of God who did Jesus pray too in these verses? Matthew 11:25-26, Matthew 26:39 & 42, Luke 6:12, 10:21 , John 11:41-42 , John 17:1 & 5 & 15, & 25 ?
Jesus says in John 16:28 that He came from the Father, if this is True how then is He the Father, if He Himself says He came forth from the Father?
Who was WITH Jesus when He said He was not alone in John 16:32?
According to John 17:4 who gave Jesus work to do?
Apparently the Apostle Paul did not know Jesus was the Father, even though He was taught by the Holy Ghost, because he says:
Maybe, just maybe the Apostle Paul did know the Truth and taught us that Jesus Christ indeed has a Father that Paul would bow his knees too. Is it not written that Paul understood all mysteries and all knowledge? Strange Paul never taught what this generation teaches, that “Jesus is the Father”. But Paul who understood mysteries taught all of us that Jesus has a Father.
The Apostle Peter was yet another Apostle who did not know that Jesus is the Father, because he says:
The Apostle John is yet another who teaches that Jesus Christ is the Son of the Father in all these verses I John 1:3, I John 2:24, 4:9-10, II John 3 & 9
Strange that the Apostles Paul, Peter, and John all taught exactly what Jesus taught them that Jesus is the Son of the Father in Heaven, that God the Father sent the Son. Strange they did not know that Jesus is the Father but taught they were separate entities. Maybe they know the Truth and we do not, if we believe that Jesus is the Father, which can be found NOWHERE in the Word of God, but only in the minds of men.
There are many, many more verses out of the Word of God that proves that Jesus is not the Father.
i do not mean to offend anyone, but those who believe that Jesus is the Father can’t possibly believe the Word of God. The Word of God teaches that the Father send His only Son, Jesus taught Himself that there is a Father and He is His Son, the Apostles also taught that Jesus Christ was the Son of the Father, hundreds of verses show the TWO (Father and Son) as separate entities.
Which is better A) interpret a few verses to mean Jesus is the Father, having to ignore, make void, or interpret away hundreds of other verses which plainly teaches differently or B) believe the hundreds of verses and what they plainly say and ignore, make void, or interpret away the few verses which teaches differently or C) believe All verses together and as a whole, what ALL the verses plainly says so that one does not contradict another? Please read Interpretation Chapter if you have not already. If even one verse contradicts what you believe to be the Truth, then what you believe is wrong. It is only when what you believe does not contradict even one verse in Scriptures then you will grasp the Truth of it.
Should i believe Jesus is the Father? Jesus never, not once, said He was the Father, none of the Apostles ever said that Jesus was the Father, NOWHERE in all the Word of God does it say that Jesus is the Father. It says that Jesus and the Father are ONE, TRUE, so is a husband and wife, so am i with them, it does not say Jesus is the Father. The Word says if you seen Me (Jesus) you have seen the Father and then immediately Jesus explains that He is in the Father and the Father is IN Him. Again it does not say Jesus is the Father. Men interpret those verses to mean that Jesus is the Father, then they go about to interpret HUNDREDS of other verses to fit their own interpretations of the few verses which they believe means Jesus is the Father.
Be warned now, don’t believe what men teach, nor listen to their interpretations, the Word of God interprets the Word of God. Let man stay out of the interpretation business. Believe what the Word says, not what men teach, not even me, I’m a man too. Believe the Bible and it says Jesus is the Son of The Father.
Question to DiscipleDave: What about the verse Isaiah 9:6 which calls Jesus the Everlasting Father?
DiscipleDave’s response to Question: Great question! Here is Isaiah 9:6
What makes Jesus my Father? Because we are begotten of Jesus. Jesus was begotten of the Father, that makes Him the Father’s Son, hence the reason we say He is the Son of god.
We are begotten of Jesus, when we are Born again.
In human terminology, Jesus is our Father and Jesus Father would be our Grandpa. Now this is a little confusing, because we do not look at the Father of Jesus as our grandpa, but as our Father. Follow me here, this may be a little difficult to understand. When we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior (Saved, Born again) the Father does not look at us as if we are grandchildren, we are adopted into the Fathers immediate family, as Sons and Daughters which makes us Brothers and Sisters with Christ, because of the adoption into the God Family.
This is why Jesus is both our brother, and father, depending on how you look at it. Jesus is my Father (Not the Father in Heaven) because i am born of Him (Jesus). If then i am born of Jesus, He is my Father. But here is the catch, as soon as i am born of Jesus, the Father in Heaven adopts me as His Son, just as Jesus is His Son, so do we become as soon as we accept His first Son (Jesus Christ). God the Father adopts me as a Son as well, which would make Jesus a Brother.
Jesus Christ is my Lord, God, Father, Mother, Brother, Sister, Master. He is all these things to me. Since i have accepted Jesus (the Father’s firstborn Son) i am now a Son of God also, so now i can pray to the Father, Jesus’s Father, even as Jesus prayed to His Father, Jesus Himself tells us to no longer pray to Him, but to His Father in His name. We have to do this because the Father can’t hear sinners which we are (John 9:31 ), but the Father will listen to His Son Jesus, which is not a sinner, This is why it is written in I Timothy 2:5 there is one mediator between God the Father and man and that is the man Jesus Christ the Son of the Father. So now we can pray to the Father THROUGH the Son Jesus Christ, we do that by praying in Jesus Christ’s name, which is our High Priest in Heaven.
Jesus speaks to the Father on our behalf, He is our advocate (lawyer) with the Father (I John 2:1). We know He does because Jesus Himself told us that He would, for He says in Matthew 10:32 “if we confess Jesus Christ to men on Earth, that Jesus would confess us to His Father in Heaven”.
Jesus Christ the man, the Son of God is right now in Heaven, being our High Priest in the Temple of God in Heaven, working on our behalf, to present us to His Father on the Day of Judgment.
Jesus the man, our High Priest is in Heaven right now preparing a place for us (New City Jerusalem) for us Saints to live in, and we will reign (as Kings and Queens) with Him. And the 144,000 will indeed call Jesus (The Son of the Father) their “Everlasting Father” during that one thousand year reign of Christ on Earth.